Dash has had a great run so far as one of the more exciting projects in cryptocurrency, fueled by a large and active community focused on positivity, productivity, cooperation, and mass adoption. However, this does not mean that these values are shared by those outside the community, and the coin has attracted a certain amount of flak from players elsewhere in the space. Here are the top 5 Dash haters.
1: Riccardo Spagni
Also known as FluffyPony, Spagni is the head honcho of the head honchco-less crypto Monero’s development team, the go-to figurehead for the coin. He has long made his opinions on Dash clear as one of the main adherents of the “Dash is a scam” line, and has had no reservations about sharing his opinion on the subject at every opportunity, including co-hosting the CryptoScam episode on Dash with Tone Vays (more on him in a bit) and airing his displeasure on Twitter.
Nobody tell Dash, they're convinced they're the most innovative project in existence. https://t.co/OvYy7nXY74
— Riccardo Spagni (@fluffyponyza) April 29, 2017
2: Tone Vays
Bitcoin maximalist, technical analysis pundit, host of CryptoScam, and steadfast friend of the Fluffiest of Ponies, Tone Vays is one of the most consistent critics of Dash. The favorite way he con-Vays his dislike for Dash is via technical analysis tweets, where he has engaged in a long-term “no wait this time Dash is about to crash” predictions constituting an increasingly tortured-looking cup-and-handle pattern.
Guess what Time it is… 😂? Time to get the #DashPay $DASH Trolls all riled up 😜…. Who want to hold the bag…The ALL DO!!! #Bitcoin pic.twitter.com/O0DAqLKWkX
— Tone Vays (@ToneVays) May 9, 2017
3: Charlie Lee
Founder of Litecoin, the great throwback coin and silver to Bitcoin’s gold, Charlie “CobLee” Lee is also known for his quick and sarcastic wit on Twitter. He is also known for being no big fan of Dash, throwing in humorous remarks and wordplay whenever presented the golden (silver?) opportunity.
@CashAlternative @d3693 @DPazdan @Dashpay @VinnyLingham Are you sure Dash is not short for digital trash instead? 😉😁 But big props so far.
— Charlie Lee (@SatoshiLite) March 11, 2017
4: Peter Todd
One of the more prominent Bitcoin Core developers, Todd is known for his tact and restraint in the highly contentious Bitcoin scaling debate, as well as for palling around with Spagni. As seems to come with the territory, he doesn’t appear to be the biggest fan of the Dash.
.@TheRektoning Without a doubt I'd choose @monerocurrency over @Dashpay – the latter is snakeoil, the former genuine crypto.
— Peter Todd (@petertoddbtc) July 17, 2015
5: Greg Maxwell
Finally, Blockstream CTO, prominent Bitcoin Core developer, and go-to /r/BTC boogeyman Greg Maxwell has recently shared some of his opinions on Dash, including his colleague Todd’s “snakeoil” line, when discussing privacy in cryptocurrency.
Did we miss any prominent Dash haters? Let us know in the comments!
No Top 5 is complete without IceBreaker 🙂 Well, maybe not. Top 6 🙂
I think he is more of a troll than a hater.
@disqus_yen9C1sEjf:disqus Well said 😉
True.
Possibly, though I feel he isn’t a “somebody” enough to make the list.
Yo dude, you forgot another cryptographer: Andrew Poelstra: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/29471/are-there-any-true-anonymous-cryptocurrencies
He’s also a real hater man, look what he’s writing:
“And by the way, Dash (formerly Darkcoin) does not provide anonymity. They attached a (broken) implementation of CoinJoin to the ordinary Bitcoin client, and at least initially released it as a closed-source software. I haven’t looked into Anoncoin, but the best advice I have for folks looking into altcoins is to assume they are uninteresting (and probably dangerously broken) until someone has demonstrated a concrete technical innovation.”
maybe create a top 6 to be sure?
Dash De-anonymization Contest
Icebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero’s development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to shapeshift.io, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/.
I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it’s exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds.
Please tell me what address this transaction originated from.
Cheers!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg14031652#msg14031652
Yeah, someone should get around to breaking that transaction. Sooner rather than later. Give the Dash devs something new to do. 🙂
Easy to just dismiss something without doing research, which is what the vast majority of crypto “experts” do. Oh, Evan Duffield bad, Dash scam because instamine, so technology must suck. I prefer to stick to facts, there’s no proof that Dash anonymity can be broken, so stop saying it.
Well, in that same link Andrew also says:
“@vertoe The link you posted says that DarkSend+ is closed source. I am not in the business of auditing amateur secret-algorithm cryptography for free. Everyone else in this thread who has asked that I give more personal attention to this project (whose current incarnation, and every incarnation before that, has raised serious red flags, right down to their decision to fork Bitcoin in order to implement CoinJoin), the answer is no.”
as proposed before, why don’t you guys make a proposal so some real cryptographers can PROVE Dash is cryptographically sound. I mean, if you can pay your ‘crypto protocol researcher’ Amanda 18k$ a month for marketing, why not use some of that money to have Dash-crypto peerreviewed? Then you’ll never have these accusations again, and you’ll know Dash crypto is sound as rock + you can prove that all these ‘haters’ are indeed just haters… win win if you ask me…
In the spirit of transparency we contacted Kristov Atlas to ask him to do a review of our technology, Darksend. Shortly after, our community happily crowd funded it and Kristov got to work.
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/reply-to-kristovs-paper.2325/
REKT
Kristov Atlas is a security researcher, not a cryptographer… In cryptography it’s of utmost importance how you knit the different parts together, a security-researcher does NOT know which are the caveats… but anyway, nice echochamber
Doesn’t it feel weird, to just dismiss expert opinions (Maxwell, Poelstra, Todd, … ) as FUD and HATE? Do you guys maybe need a safe space?
Hey you can’t get them all! 🙂 But thanks for noting, yeah he does sound like a hater, just hating on “probably dangerously broken” stuff that’s, you know, never been broken. 😀
If so many experts in the space say it’s a scam maybe it’s worth to do your own research about Dash? Then you’d might figure out that they’re right.
Tone Vays doesn’t deserved to me mention next to these other 4 which actually develop crypto. These other “Experts” work on competing coins, of course they are bias. Greg Maxwell even says “I have no clue if the current version is secure or not.” Maybe you should do your own research on Dash instead of just repeating what these guys say.
So you only listen to feedback from expert in this area who don’t work in the space? That doesn’t make any sense at all.
Yea that doesn’t make any sense at all, and it makes even less sense that you think that’s what i was suggesting with my reply. There are real experts in the space like Andreas Antonopoulos that don’t call Dash a scam/snakeoil. The only negative thing he has said about Dash is that it lacks innovation, which he has also said about Litecoin. Litecoin is showing its lack of innovation by copying BTC again, and implementing Segwit. Well Dash Devs are in the process of making the very first decentralized API.
You should go read Fountainhead and comeback later
Also, it’s worth pointing out that, naturally I’ve had bias. But that doesn’t make me a hater. Uninformed/ill-informed/purposely deceitful and unwarranted negativity does.
More like “competitors” than “experts”.
I’ve done plenty of research. That’s what got me here, not the (virtually nonexistent) hype. Experts can have expert opinions, right or wrong, and not be haters. Hating makes you a hater. These five are definitely haters. 🙂
Those are very smart fellows whose opinions I respect.
So 5 very intelligent and respected members of the crypto-community very much dislike DASH? Please just don’t release another music video…
“Intelligent” and “respected” you say? Ooooooook 😀
Spagni, Lee, Todd, Maxwell are some of the best developers in the space. Pointing out their criticisms of Dash is very revealing. You can’t say it’s just that they’re biased against Dash because Todd, Maxwell and Lee all are competitors of Monero, which they all prefer over Dash.
BTW Dash had 2M tokens pre-mined which they blamed on a “bug”. That’s a disqualifier immediately as being a legitimate cryptocurrency in my book. Also they needed 2 re-brands to obfuscate their shady history. Sorry that’s just unappealing to anyone with a brain.
“Spagni, Lee, Todd, Maxwell are some of the best developers in the space.” That’s where you lose credibility. 😀 Very much not impressed with their work or integrity. In the slightest. Good haters to have.